Please ditch the R R R

Discussion in 'Straight Keys - CW Enthusiasts' started by WB2WIK, Jun 13, 2020.

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  1. M6GYU

    M6GYU Ham Member QRZ Page

    Re "RRR"
    I remember my very first QSO in 1966.

    We were just finishing our training at HMS Mercury, the Royal Navy's signal school in Hampshire and a part of the final training was going to sea and across the channel (thats the Enlgish channel!! ;) to St Malo in France :rolleyes: on a converted MFV (Motor Fishing Vessel) Amongst steering the thing, and various other nautical exercises we kept radio watches with one of the RN coastal stations, in this case MTN (Portsmouth). Bear in mind we had been taught procedural matters very strictly as taught by our trained & qualified instructors.

    On schedule I called up MTN and asked for a signal report using :- MTN de MXXT, "INT' QRK K (INT sent without spaces = Interrogative) and used before the Q code to indicate a question)
    Much to my amazement the operator immediately replies with "MXXT de MTN RRR QRK 5 K" I was soooo surprised :eek::eek:at his 3 RRRs. I'd be 16 or 17 yrs old. I eventually got over the shock though! :)

    PS I also learned that steering the boat using a compass was harder than I thought.:confused:
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  2. N8AFT

    N8AFT Ham Member QRZ Page

    I Hate hearing "RST 599 OM" when I know darn good-n-well it's not...
    QRP guys know we are pizz weak most of the time so Please stop doling out those 'feel good' RST reports!
  3. WB2WIK

    WB2WIK Platinum Subscriber Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    ...except in contests, that's the default report provided by the software used for logging and to override that takes more keystrokes.:p

    I've always thought a "signal report" during a contest was ridiculous, since it's meaningless and just wastes time.

    But I agree, during non-contests, why not give a real signal report? I've worked stations who were truly about a 119 but would usually give 229 to indicate I'm actually copying "something," if not nearly all bits sent.
  4. WB2WIK

    WB2WIK Platinum Subscriber Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    Slight subject shift, but...

    Why do so many CW ops send long good-byes?

    Another one I never quite understood.

    Sending various forms of "Thanks for the great QSO" when the entire QSO lasted two minutes and was mostly an exchange of three pieces of data seems silly. Sending "Well I have to run along now so 73 and take care and God bless and have a great weekend, and..." also puzzles me. Even nuttier when the reason to end the contact is the band is dropping out and we're losing each other. "73" works great and kinda says it all.
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  5. KD2RDG

    KD2RDG Ham Member QRZ Page

    Right on. Waste of time to send rehearsed bs.

    I miss this venting thread.

    Lately I keep running into ops who have no idea or just don't want to respond to CQs in the traditional manner. Kind of lame because it takes three times as long to establish contact due to all their random dits and nonsense.
  6. K9NUD

    K9NUD XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    I particularly enjoy the prolonged dit daaaaah dit from straight key and bug ops. It's like speaking with facial expressions. I'm never sure if it's a smirk, a knowing smile, or what, but I like getting and giving it.
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  7. WB2WIK

    WB2WIK Platinum Subscriber Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    I don't mind some of that when it's a newbie just getting started with CW, but some more experienced ops who should know better also do this.

    I also hear stations sending CQ without ever sending a 'K" at the end, or possibly sending "AR" instead, which doesn't invite anyone to respond. And so many using "KN" at the end of each transmission. Never heard this 50+ years ago, but seems fairly common today -- for some reason I don't understand.

    Oh well.:)
  8. W5BIB

    W5BIB Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    That's "Personality" ;) UN-obtainable with a keyboard or keyer/paddles.

    I've never gotten 'upset' with three(3) R's. & sometimes use them meself with my straight-key or bug. - To me, it simply means that "I got everything solid" - It also gives an extra second or so to organize my thoughts for the upcoming transmission. ;) 'R'? ... RRR :p

    Steve in L.A. - (Lower Alabama)
    dit dit
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  9. WN1MB

    WN1MB Ham Member QRZ Page

    I see what you did there. Well played!
  10. N8RKD

    N8RKD Ham Member QRZ Page

    When I do that, I'm trying to trip the Reverse Beacon Network. I don't necessarily want a QSO at that time.

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