Please ditch the R R R

Discussion in 'Straight Keys - CW Enthusiasts' started by WB2WIK, Jun 13, 2020.

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  1. WB2WIK

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    Funny part is, most experienced CW ops use tons of abbreviations and did so way before the internet or texting existed.

    Some of the texting and Instagram, etc. abbreviations are actually the same ones we used much earlier.

    So, why do new CW ops using keyboards don't use them, and instead spell things out?

    Another thing to ponder.:)
     
  2. KB1CKT

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    Less time to type out the full word than it is to think of the abbreviation.

    I can't speak for all new CW ops but I've touch-typed for longer than I have attempted CW. When I type, I just kinda-sorta "see" what I want to type, and my fingers hit the buttons--I don't remember where the keys are anymore, the fingers do the walking for me. As I try to master the straight key (ha!) I find myself starting to envision what I'm going to send, a picture of the sentence in my head, as I bang it out. Working on less counting and more "going by sound".

    But on a keyboard? It's too easy to fill the buffer and fill out the station log while waiting for it to send.
     
  3. K5TSK

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    Don't bet on it not happening. Amazing the way that bad habits, bad ideas, propagate in this society. I would almost bet someone sends COPY THAT now on CW. And to think, this was intended as a smirk. Hang in there all y'all real CW guys (keyboarders excluded? ( Sergeant Preston decoder rings allowed)).
     
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  4. KA2CZU

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    if they were less than 40 years old, and tapping out with their thumbs on a phone keypad, they would
     
  5. WA1GXC

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    IS THAT A QSL? U H

    I am not offering this to be mean, just as an example of the implications for all ; once a seed of odd procedure gets sown, it starts to blossom.

    Approximately 3 months ago, I heard a fellow on 40m sending slow CW, probably 5-7wpm--it was apparent a keyboard was in use. Clearly brand-new, was attempting what we would identify as a "CQ"
    by sending, quote, (this is not a joke, I assure you) "CALLING ANYONE THIS IS WG9xxx" repeated twice, followed by silence.

    As this new operator gets more engaged, no doubt scared to death, starts reading and so forth, I'm sure everything will turn out just fine. But the new "procedural norm" of CQ CQ CQ DE WQ1ABC WQ1ABC WQ1ABC CQ PSE K
    is appearing with distressing regularity, and not just in the Newcomers' hangout frequency ranges. The CQ PSE K seems to have started on the European side of the Atlantic a few short years ago and
    is now causing hay-fever everywhere. Hope you've all had your allergy shots.

    Yes, indeed, hang in there guys and gals.

    73
     
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  6. WB2WIK

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    The animated classic Ratatouille was about a rat that was a chef and the premise of the film was "anyone can cook!"

    Morse code is like that, also. Anyone can learn it.:)

    Just don't spoil the soup.
     
  7. OE3IAK

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    Sorry to dig this up. But I found something.

    I guess you all feel pretty bad now ignoring all these distress calls! Just kidding.
    Source: http://www.wd8das.net/RadioCodes.pdf
     
  8. KY4ID

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    I actually prefer RRR RRR. My ears hear RRR RRR, but my brain hears “damn KY4ID, what you just said was spot on!” LOL
     
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  9. WB2WIK

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    But "R" really is the Morse equivalent of "Roger," which means "message received" (without omissions).

    History:
    I'd never encourage anyone to use "R" unless they really did copy whatever was sent 100% and don't need any fills. And one "R" is quite enough.:)
     
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  10. WA1GXC

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    .


    QTQ ? -- " Can you communicate with my station by means of the International Code of Signals (INTERCO) ?

    I always keep a short list at my operating desk, for occasions when QSD ("Your sending stinks") just does not seem to be doing the trick.

    INTERCO Chapter 3

    MPG --Patient is not improving
    MQU--I am not sure about your diagnosis
    MQE--My probable diagnosis is...(Table M-2)
    MSK--To induce sleep give 2 sedative tablets
    MVA--I consider the case serious and urgent
    MCW--Patient appears to be in a state of shock
    MLE--Patient has had much alcohol
    MNA--Patient has hearing impaired
    MNC--Patient has constant noise in ear(s)

    QUS ? --"Have you sighted survivors or wreckage ?"

    73, I guess.




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