Discussion in 'Logbook User Forum' started by KG7WOC, Oct 5, 2021.
Not everyone uses qrz's logbook.
I left radio in the 80s for the work force. Now retired and 35 years later, picked HF back up in full swing. Went from a kenwood 520s to a Yaseu 3000. From computer intergration , FT8 and all the other abbreviations, to winlink, and DMR , dSTAR, Fusion.... wow! Alot has happened in 35 years. Anyway.......... QRZ seemed to fit at the time...simply easy to use. these past 2 years,,,,but your right. not everyone uses it. Good for addresses and such, bu..... Most of my confirms came in the very beginning 2 years ago.. I knew things changed further when not very many people do QSL cards anymore. I do get some, but eQSL - I get it. $$$ and storage. Never the less, I have looked at LOTW, its just going to need me to sit and set it up....use it day by day...to get it. It does frighten me up front, but I am sure its easy to use.....Other than that, I like N3FJP's logs ( winter field day and field day, and louisiana QSO party. ) LOTW should be no different. Thanks Bill.
If one wants to cover all the bases there's no harm in uploading logs to all the major online portals. LoTW, eQSL, QRZ, HRD.
Your own logging system is essential to making it all work. Typing in onesie-twosie contacts to each one isn't practical.
You can have 42 WAS on one, 47 on another and some cards in hand but you still don't achieve a WAS on any portal until you meet THEIR requirement.
Its all part of the chase!
I just updated my logs on QRZ this week, previous update was probably in 2019. I hadn't even logged into QRZ for about a year and a half.
My LoTW logs are kept pretty up to date.
I've been computer logging with various programs since the late 1980's. I too, did not like the paperwork aspect of our service / avocation. I prefer the ease of using the computer.
Some things to think about:
1. Not everyone uses the same logging program or log repository. This makes confirmations iffy at times.
2. JA hams are relentless with the electronic and paper QSL's. I recently got a big envelope from the buro. In it were nothing but QSL cards from JA hams for QSO's already confirmed in LOTW and QRZ.
3. QSL hard copy return rate for anyone other than JA is usually abysmal. Maybe 20 - 30% return overall. It's been that way for years. QSL managers are very helpful for the rare or semi-rare DX.
4. Patience is vital when doing the paper chase. It's gotten much better with the advent of electronic QSL'ing but patience is still key.
We do the confirmation thing for our own benefit. The old idea that "A QSL is the final courtesy" is out the window. It's just a remnant of how things were done in the early years of our service. Everyone here is on their own level with the hobby: some of us really want that confirmation, some don't. Personally, I still like getting the confirmations electronically and applying for awards that way. Sending and receiving hard copy QSL cards is no longer interesting to me and I think a lot of us are tending in that direction.
After 34 years in the hobby, I too, have a shelf in the closet with many boxes of QSL received cards. Neat to look at at times but that's about all... I've sent out many, many QSL's too but as I mentioned the return rate simply does not justify the effort anymore, if it ever did.
Thinking about this reminds me that I have not downloaded to QRZ recently. I should go do that!
I don't find that to be the case. Using SASEs my rate is close to 100%. My bureau rate is much less and I only send to those who say they use the bureau.
Sure, but you also are DX. That probably helps your return rate now, doesn't it? I had only about the 20-30% return when sending direct with SASE. As I mentioned I gave that up years ago. No one really needs another W7 QSL, but a lot of folks want a KP4 QSL...
You'd be surprised. I rarely receive cards.
I don't see how being "DX" would keep people from throwing away my SASE and not responding.
CORRECT ! OH how I found that out with SKCC. I thought once I hit 100 contacts I would get that first level of "C", but it took me 25 -30 more contacts because some were not accepted.
There were various reasons I am sure, I cant tell you why...but it was all good. Now near 195....I am sure I will need to go farther than 200 to get that first "X or +1 " label.