About to buy a truck; should I go with diesel for less QRN?

Discussion in 'Mobile Radio Systems' started by AK5B, Oct 10, 2021.

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  1. N5WTF

    N5WTF Ham Member QRZ Page

    Not to discourage you from any direction you may go, however, ruling out a diesel and turning around to say a Land Rover or H1 may be options is laughable IMO. I can assure you a new Diesel is no more expensive to maintain than a Land Rover. And don't get me started on H1s. While they are cool vehicles they are a royal PITA to work on.

    I have a 2012 Ram 3500 Diesel, It is roughly $125 to service the truck every 150 hours. Mobil 1 synthetic diesel oil, oil filter, air filter, wiper fluid and fuel filter. Like W7UUU said, Buy what you want/need, worry about RF later. No issues at all when I installed my Kenwood 281 in the truck.
  2. UT7UX

    UT7UX Ham Member QRZ Page

    Here in Europe all the stuff would be instantly stolen from a truck's cargo compartment. :D That's why enclosed vans are pretty popular across entire continent while trucks are rare and mostly considered to be offroaders rather than everyday utility vehicles.
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  3. AK5B

    AK5B Ham Member QRZ Page

    I actually appreciate any discouragement as much as encouragement; it's all part of the process of making the best decision I can. I always try to read between the lines of reviews, too. The truth is often a hard nut to crack, you know.

    As much as I'd love to have a great condition older (1990s) Land Rover Discover or Defender (or low-mileage H1 or H2) I am now leaning towards a F150 gasser with off-road trim. I know I do not want to have the potential issues that some diesel trucks encounter crop up down the road at some point in the near or distant future. They sound like potential expensive nightmares. But it is great that some of you have had good lick with diesels over the years, too. and I think a lot boils down to usage and maintenance as with any other kind of machinery. I just don't need anything so heavy-duty with gobs of torque.

    Meanwhile, I made the mistake of running across this outfit that totally rebuilds civilian H1s into extreme off road custom versions that obviously delight the eye as well as the soul:


    While I'm not wild about the re-done interiors I drool incessantly over the gorgeous exteriors and incredible capabilities they must have---but at $329,000 plus a "core" H1 to rebuild, I'm only able to dream, period.:D:(

    I'll always be fond of Hummers but I can see that the more I learn about them, the more leery I become.

    Yesterday we drove up to San Antonio for my wife's follow-up visit after her recent cataract surgery, and we made a stop at the Toyota dealer to check out the Tacomas and Tundras first hand. We learned that, besides being completely out of stock in new Tacomas, the Tundra is losing the notoriously gas-gobbling V-8 and the 2022s will all be fitted with a V6 instead. That's very good news for us although the downside is the wait for them to show up at the dealerships (likely December as far as I know now). Not sure if we will want to wait that long or not---but we sure liked everything else about the big 2021 Tundras we saw there. Excellent fit and finish and the style of the interior was also elegant and impressive.

    In the meantime, we have resolved to further our research and test drives confined to our local dealers.

    We may stop by the Corpus Christi Ford dealer this weekend after we check out the annual Sand Expo on Mustang Island (lots of amazing sand castles/sculptures will be on display there, a huge flat beach where vehicles are also allowed onto---so I can scope out future portable ops as well).

    Late last night I happened across another website comparing the Jeep Gladiator (pickup) to the Jeep Wrangler (a la less-expensive Land Rover). One disconcerting thing I learned that there has been a problem with "death wobble" in some Wranglers and there's even a class-action lawsuit in progress against Fiat Chrysler...

    Glad I'm doing my homework on all of this!

    Thanks for your input.


    Last edited: Oct 13, 2021
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  4. AK5B

    AK5B Ham Member QRZ Page

    Theft from an open trailer (along with inclement weather) is certainly a consideration---but what I will be towing or hauling back from California will be somewhat large and heavy furniture/chairs/metal file cabinets/another rollaway bed and some metal shelving. The smaller boxes of photos and personal items should fit inside the cab. I will have to wrap or cover the furniture well for potential rains during the four or five day trip back to Texas---and I plan to stay at better hotels with well-lit parking and cross my fingers. Nothing of great monetary value will be in the trailer or truck bed--it's almost entirely stuff of sentimental value.

    Once the storage unit is emptied I will only be using any trailer I get (unless I end up renting one instead) will be used for hauling my scooter to the repair shop (very seldom) or perhaps to carry a kayak or small rowboat to a nearby launch site.


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  5. N0TZU

    N0TZU Platinum Subscriber Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    If it were me I wouldn’t consider the Jeep for your application. They are Jeeps first, pickups way second. Having a solid front axle in 2021 on a light duty vehicle is a poor choice unless the priority will be offroad use.

    The steering at speed with the old fashioned steering gear and arm is sloppy. As you said the Jeep front end design can have instability in some cases. And the ride and handling are inferior to independent suspension.

    The 2022 Toyota’s will also have independent on the rear I hear, and that might also be the case with other brands of light duty pickups. That would be a major improvement in ride and handling especially on rough dirt roads.
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  6. AK5B

    AK5B Ham Member QRZ Page

    Yes it is; don't know if I mentioned this already or not---but my main concern after my test drive of a 2021 Gladiator was that the steering on the freeway had way too much play in it---and that was without any kind of load or trailer in tow.

    When I got back in my 13-year old Scion with 104K miles it felt like I was then driving a brand new vehicle with solid steering feel! (I did just have new struts and shocks installed two days before I left California so heavily loaded---and after unloading in Texas I could feel the difference it made).

    Combined with the possible death wobble cropping up at some unknown point I am turning away from Jeeps for good.


    No Jeeps for Jeff!
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  7. N0TZU

    N0TZU Platinum Subscriber Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    Rack and pinion steering is wonderful!

    Just to be clear, the Wrangler death wobble is relatively rare but can be difficult to find the component responsible.
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  8. AK5B

    AK5B Ham Member QRZ Page

    Yes it is!

    Maybe it's rare but who needs something more to worry about flying down the highway (loaded or not)?

    Not me!

    Thanks Bob!
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  9. AG5CK

    AG5CK Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    I know a guy with a 2019 F250 that's in the shop, for the second time, for the death wobble. I remember some talk about Dodge Rams having this issue years ago.

    I wouldn't let a small percentage of unlucky people change my mind. Those unlucky ones tend to congregate on manufacturer specific forums and try to scare everyone.

    I found out my Ram had a cp4 pump after I bought it. Plenty of horror stories about that pump and warranty being denied due to contamination. That contamination may have came from the guy doing, or not doing, the maintenance. At some point Ford, GM and Nissan have used that pump.

    Since manufacturers know it takes so little to wreck a fuel system, I don't know why Ram doesn't have or offer a fuel cap. There is a spring loaded flap in the filler neck and a rubber gasket around the fuel door. The fuel fill port is slightly below and to the right of the def fill port. It seems too easy to overfill the def tank and get some into the fuel tank. Geno's Garage makes a nice fuel cap that makes me feel better.
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  10. KE0NSK

    KE0NSK Ham Member QRZ Page

    Keep the H1 in the dream category unless you are made of money and feel that you need to rid yourself of a significant amount of that money.

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